I don’t have a lot of sympathy with MM. Most of the men she had affairs with were married men, she didn’t care how much pain she caused the wives of those men. I think she’s as much to blame as the unfaithful men were.
The Kennedy family are hypocrites. They are the product of deception, cheating and greed. They supported the criminals in their family but without a thought they turned their back on @robertfkennedyjrofficial just because they hate President Trump. RFKJr isn’t perfect for sure but it’s disgusting they turned on him publicly. JFK would be considered a moderate republican today. Their elitism is gross and the whole family makes me sick.
I think it's just plain nasty for a man to have a sexual relationship with a woman his brother or a close friend was involved with previously. And worse yet in this case where both of them were married men.
The author REALLY left a lot out of this chapter. 1. WHERE were Ethel & the 4 eldest kids the day Marilyn died? East coast or San Francisco? Reports have Bobby at Marilyn’s house in LA and flying back/forth to San Francisco. 2. Pat Lawford had flown to the Kennedy compound to discuss the double Marilyn problem with their parents. Were they involved? 3. Peter Lawford had previously called Bobby from a pay phone telling him that Marilyn was going public with the affairs AND SHE had made tapes for proof— prompting Bobby & Ethel & 4 kids to go to California for image control and a “tour”. 4. What did Ethel know about Bobby’s actions that day/ night? Her perspective is left out.
I always have to question biographies when the authors start creating actual dialogue between the characters presented in their books – its not like those type of biographers have actual tape recordings they are transcribing from and rarely if ever were those authors present themselves when those dialogues happened…i know inventing dialogue for characters in a biography can help the subjects come "alive" for the reader but doing so almost always is not what was really said but rather doing so exposes the particular bias or narrative the biographer is pushing – and controversial narratives sell books.
Just found your channel and have been non stop listening to you! Your Megan and Harry's accents crack me up and oh Diana's voice is bang on!! Keep up the great work and never mind Miss C!! I live in Victoria BC Canada!!
A MARRIED MAN BOBBY KENNEDY WITH 8 CHILDREN ?????? MARILYN MONROE WAS PASSED AROUND BROTHERS DO ! NO HUMANS ON THIS PLANET ARE " INNOCENTS" CREATED MAN & WOMAN ARE MEANT TO "USE" A CERTAIN PART OF THEIR HUMAN ANATOMY !!! SCANDALS SCANDALS ! SINCE YEAR " DOT" ! FROM, THE UNITED KINGDOM. (2024).
🌸 Happy Thanksgiving to you & yours from me & mine. 🤨🤣 You looked pretty in today’s video, hope the homeschooling is going well. Maybe a little life update video? Would like to know what you think about homeschooling, the positive and/or negatives. I would love to hear your opinion being a teacher yourself. 😊
I’m here for all your videos, enjoy your readings and especially your analysis. I’m a history buff and waiting for the Mountbattens, Dickie always seemed to be involved anytime something of any historical significance was happening. I keep expecting him to turn up in this story line too.
Because of her dad, She wasn't satisfied with a pro baseball player, nor a President , nor his little brother, she could have been prescribed speed.And who knows.
I understand what you said about the "emotional calm" bit. . .But I think the writer may have been referring to the reports that Marilyn was so mad about JFK dumping her that she was threatening to go public about her affair with the President. I think the Kennedys were afraid she just might do that, which back then could have ruined JFK's reputation enough to hurt his chances in 1964. So, I think the writer was saying that the "calming" bit was possibly an attempt to get Marilyn to NOT go public. The media was different back then, and the average American really didn't know anything about JFK's womanizing. The reporters who did know about it just didn't use it. I agree, though, it's still a pretty lame excuse for hopping into bed with Marilyn!
I've studied the Kennedys since my college days 40 years ago. While I don't condone some of their private behavior, it was not at all unusual behavior among many elected officials on Capitol Hill during those times, the 1950s and 1960s. Indeed, it was an open secret that various Members of Congress (Republican and Democrat alike) engaged in affairs. The environment 60 and 70 years ago was much more permissive then about such matters than is the case nowadays The accepted rule at that time among journalists was that, if it was known that an elected official was engaged in an affair, not to report on it because if it was believed that that official's private behavior had no bearing on their public conduct, it was not publicized. This was a "Mad Men" world. White male privilege writ large.
.One book I would highly recommend for any interested viewers is "GRACE AND POWER: The Private World of the Kennedy White House" by Sally Bedell Smith. I found it to be a highly fascinating book. (BTW, cool podcast.)
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Ethel certainly had the last laugh out living the bunch of them by a half century. Living ,in this case, well, is the best revenge!
I don’t have a lot of sympathy with MM. Most of the men she had affairs with were married men, she didn’t care how much pain she caused the wives of those men. I think she’s as much to blame as the unfaithful men were.
Marilyn ho ho ho🎉😊😊😂🎉🎉
The Kennedy family are hypocrites. They are the product of deception, cheating and greed. They supported the criminals in their family but without a thought they turned their back on @robertfkennedyjrofficial just
because they hate President Trump. RFKJr isn’t perfect for sure but it’s disgusting they turned on him publicly. JFK would be considered a moderate republican today. Their elitism is gross and the whole family makes me sick.
I think it's just plain nasty for a man to have a sexual relationship with a woman his brother or a close friend was involved with previously. And worse yet in this case where both of them were married men.
Anthony Sumers writes a lot of rubbish
it's amazing how their father was so corrupt and yet they went after mob bosses you get what you get just saying
The author REALLY left a lot out of this chapter.
1. WHERE were Ethel & the 4 eldest kids the day Marilyn died? East coast or San Francisco? Reports have Bobby at Marilyn’s house in LA and flying back/forth to San Francisco.
2. Pat Lawford had flown to the Kennedy compound to discuss the double Marilyn problem with their parents. Were they involved?
3. Peter Lawford had previously called Bobby from a pay phone telling him that Marilyn was going public with the affairs AND SHE had made tapes for proof— prompting Bobby & Ethel & 4 kids to go to California for image control and a “tour”.
4. What did Ethel know about Bobby’s actions that day/ night? Her perspective is left out.
I doubt there are any historical figures from the past who would go thru a test of contemporary values and norms and come out with a favorable rating.
I always have to question biographies when the authors start creating actual dialogue between the characters presented in their books – its not like those type of biographers have actual tape recordings they are transcribing from and rarely if ever were those authors present themselves when those dialogues happened…i know inventing dialogue for characters in a biography can help the subjects come "alive" for the reader but doing so almost always is not what was really said but rather doing so exposes the particular bias or narrative the biographer is pushing – and controversial narratives sell books.
Just found your channel and have been non stop listening to you! Your Megan and Harry's accents crack me up and oh Diana's voice is bang on!! Keep up the great work and never mind Miss C!! I live in Victoria BC Canada!!
I am reminded of stories of British weekend house parties. Also marriage among a certain social strata are not about love or even respect.
A MARRIED MAN BOBBY KENNEDY WITH 8 CHILDREN ?????? MARILYN MONROE WAS PASSED AROUND BROTHERS DO ! NO HUMANS ON THIS PLANET ARE " INNOCENTS" CREATED MAN & WOMAN ARE MEANT TO "USE" A CERTAIN PART OF THEIR HUMAN ANATOMY !!! SCANDALS SCANDALS ! SINCE YEAR " DOT" ! FROM, THE UNITED KINGDOM. (2024).
Nothing that Kennedy do could surprise me. The only decent Kennedy was JFK Junior.
🌸 Happy Thanksgiving to you & yours from me & mine. 🤨🤣 You looked pretty in today’s video, hope the homeschooling is going well. Maybe a little life update video? Would like to know what you think about homeschooling, the positive and/or negatives. I would love to hear your opinion being a teacher yourself. 😊
I’m here for all your videos, enjoy your readings and especially your analysis. I’m a history buff and waiting for the Mountbattens, Dickie always seemed to be involved anytime something of any historical significance was happening. I keep expecting him to turn up in this story line too.
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You're a fair and wise woman.
What’s really creepy is that Bobby and Ethel went to mass every week.
Lol the Kennedys were a wild ride
Because of her dad, She wasn't satisfied with a pro baseball player, nor a President , nor his little brother, she could have been prescribed speed.And who knows.
I understand what you said about the "emotional calm" bit. . .But I think the writer may have been referring to the reports that Marilyn was so mad about JFK dumping her that she was threatening to go public about her affair with the President. I think the Kennedys were afraid she just might do that, which back then could have ruined JFK's reputation enough to hurt his chances in 1964. So, I think the writer was saying that the "calming" bit was possibly an attempt to get Marilyn to NOT go public. The media was different back then, and the average American really didn't know anything about JFK's womanizing. The reporters who did know about it just didn't use it. I agree, though, it's still a pretty lame excuse for hopping into bed with Marilyn!
I've studied the Kennedys since my college days 40 years ago. While I don't condone some of their private behavior, it was not at all unusual behavior among many elected officials on Capitol Hill during those times, the 1950s and 1960s. Indeed, it was an open secret that various Members of Congress (Republican and Democrat alike) engaged in affairs. The environment 60 and 70 years ago was much more permissive then about such matters than is the case nowadays The accepted rule at that time among journalists was that, if it was known that an elected official was engaged in an affair, not to report on it because if it was believed that that official's private behavior had no bearing on their public conduct, it was not publicized. This was a "Mad Men" world. White male privilege writ large.
.One book I would highly recommend for any interested viewers is "GRACE AND POWER: The Private World of the Kennedy White House" by Sally Bedell Smith. I found it to be a highly fascinating book. (BTW, cool podcast.)
There’s such controversy about Dorothy Kilgallen’s death. Very interesting topic
I HATE that kim kardashion was allowed to wear that dress 🤬
When I look at Marylin's early life, kind of 'what made her tick', it just makes me sad.
"He was gonna drag his left leg into a party." I died 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Peter Lawford was a disgusting excuse for a human. I read his biography so you didn't have to. You're welcome 😊😂❤
Men would blame women if they got hit on, the code was that women must be encouraging it, and the men are just responding to the wicked wiles.
It seems RFK jr has the same behaviour as his father and uncle